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Farmer Needs Help!

From: Aik

Guppies are spawned by the hundreds in a fish farm by a farmer.  After about 4 weeks, the guppies are ready to be sold on the market. They are weighed before leaving the farm. The average fish weighs 26 grams, but the top 20% weighs an average 41 grams. The farmer is not very good with math, but he wants to calculate and see how the remaining 80% of the distribution looks like:

 

(1) Average must be 26 grams, (2) Top 20% must average 41 grams, (3) All percentages must add up to 100, (4) Distance between adjacent intervals must be roughly the same, (5) Likely to be roughly bell-shaped distribution (though may be skewed) and with at least 5 intervals.

 

In another pond, gold fish is being bred. The incubation period is between 3 - 4 weeks. A set of gold fish is ready after 3 weeks weighing 25.5 grams on average, with the remaining weighing an average 29 grams after 4 weeks. The incubation period varies from batch to batch. For one particular batch, 80% was 3-week while 20% was 4-week.  The top 20% of the combined 3-week and 4-week gold fish weighs 32 grams on average. Like the above, the farmer is interested to know how the distribution looks like, when there are at least 5 weight intervals. Overall, he wants to know whether it is better for him to breed gold fish or guppy, if the weights of the fish and their distributions (spreads) are the only concerns.

 

Prizes to be won: $100 of cash prize + $100 of Haagen-Dazs voucher for the 1st prize, $100 voucher for the 2nd prize; and $50 voucher for the 3rd prize. Entries to be received by next Wednesday, 12 April 2006. Judges' decisions will be final, and no petitions will be entertained. Proof of farming knowledge is not necessary, and multiple entries from the same person are encouraged. Query (if any) on the competition to be posted to comments please. Offer is void where prohibited by law. Please send entries, with tables and graphs, to Chelsey bizczc@nus.edu.sg .

 

Published Friday, April 07, 2006 10:53 AM by Helen
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# re: Help Needed For The Farmer!

Friday, April 07, 2006 12:52 PM by Nicole
I thought the average is 42 grams?

Anyway, I think that the average of 26g doesn't refer to the guppies... It might be the average of all the fishes... afterall, the farmer claimed that it's only the guppies that have a top 20% weighing 41g...

# re: Help Needed For The Farmer!

Friday, April 07, 2006 12:59 PM by Nicole
oh yes,can we also have the % of goldfish that are sold after 3 weeks? =)

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Friday, April 07, 2006 2:04 PM by Helen
The farmer is ambitious. At first he was convinced that it was 42 grams. Then he weighed them again and again, and found he was wrong. It was actually 41 grams.

It is a big breeding farm. The farmer is breeding all kinds of fish, angel fish, kissing fish etc. But he is sure that the average guppy weighs 26 grams.

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Friday, April 07, 2006 2:08 PM by Helen
The farmer is a lazy guy. He found and realized that it was a huge task to coax the fish into the net to weigh them. He gave up. In the end, not all the fish were weighed.

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Friday, April 07, 2006 3:00 PM by K Weesheng
How much does the farmer get for a guppy or a goldfish? How much is the cost involved in breeding them per week. Is the weight of the fish related to selling price per fish?

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Friday, April 07, 2006 4:55 PM by Helen
The farmer has to make a few assumptions. One assumption is, each gram of all fish is worth the same on the market, and that the cost of fish feed is negligible. Good luck, aik.

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:46 AM by feng
in the question, it is said:" The average fish weighs 26 grams, but the top 20% weighs 41 grams each." it means that the average of top 20% is roughly 41 grams, but there is still  a spread of weights, right? if that's not the case, if each of the top 20% is 41 grams exactly, it is too unrealistic.

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:30 AM by Helen
Feng, thanks for the post. On behalf of aik, top 20% on the average weighs 41 grams. Good luck!

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:16 AM by feng
are the workings required? or we can just answer the questions without having to show how we get it? Thanks

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:59 AM by Helen
Feng, thanks for your post again. For this, workings are required.

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:18 AM by Jackie
Could you kindly clarify for me what it means by "Distance between adjacent intervals" ? perhaps an example will do.
Thanks.

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:39 AM by Helen
Jackie, please refer to Aik's email. Thanks.

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:24 PM by aik
Hi Jackie, sorry I could be clearer.  Distance between adjacent intervals actually refers to the bin width, or interval length, for each "bar" in a histogram.  Cheers, aik

# re: Farmer Needs Help!

Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:32 PM by aik
The verdict is in!  Gold fish is better!

Feng Chen is going to be one fat gold fish after he spends all his first prize take on ice cream!  Congratulations!

Reginald Lee is not going to be much thinner, having won second prize.  Well done!

Tran Ngoc Diep has a better chance of beating the BMI, since he only got third prize.  Way to go!

Thank you all for the postings, emails, and entries.  Shall send an email to all, with one attempt at an approximate solution.

Three cheers to the happy farmer (and his friends in the same trade) who was helped!
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